Koma kunena kuti Glagoleva - mkazi wodetsedwa ndi kuwonongedwa, nayenso, akanakhala wopanda chilungamo. Vera Glagoleva, yemwe ndi wolemba masewera komanso filimu, sadziona kuti ndi wovuta kwambiri. Amadziŵa kuti ali ndi chidwi chodabwitsa komanso chodabwitsa.
Monga lamulo , makhalidwe ambiri amaikidwa muunyamata. Kodi wojambula nyimbo ndi Vera Glagoleva yemwe anali wokonda kwambiri m'banja?
Ine ndinali mlongo wamng'ono, ndipo izi, monga akunenera, zimalongosola zambiri. Zonsezi zinapita kwa mkulu wanga, ndinakhululukidwa zambiri. Komanso, ine ndinali mwana wamkazi wa bambo anga - ngati opanda mgwirizano komanso wosavuta monga iye. Ndipo M'bale Boris ali mwa amayi anga, ozama, oganiza bwino. Anamukakamiza kusewera piyano mpaka atakwiya: "Chifukwa chiyani palibe yemwe akukakamiza Vera, ndipo ine ndikuyenera?" Koma ntchito yanga inali monga kuyenda ndi galu ndikumuyendetsa ku ziwonetsero zamitundu yonse. Umenewu unali kukongola kwakukulu kwa greyhound, ndipo anali iye amene ankandiona ine mbuye wake.
Munabadwa ku Moscow, koma pomalizira pake munakhazikitsidwa mumzindawu pokhapokha mutakwanitsa zaka 10, banja lonse litatha zaka zinayi ku Germany. Kodi moyo wanu unali kunja kwina?
Moyo ku Germany unali wodekha ndi wodabwitsa. Makolo ankagwira ntchito ngati aphunzitsi ku sukulu ya ku Russia, komwe tinakhalamo. Sukuluyo idalinso ndi famu yake - akalulu, nkhuku ... Bambo ankagwira ntchito monga katswiri wa sayansi, ndipo anali malo ake. Ine ndi mchimwene wanga tinamuthandiza kumunda. Loweruka, akuluakulu a Russia omwe ali ndi zaka 60 - Lev Kulidzhanov, Grigory Chukhrai, Mikhail Kalatozov - adawonetsedwa ku ofesi ya mkulu wa magulu ... Zinali zojambula zawo zomwe ndinalandira maganizo anga oyamba pa cinema. Nthawi yonse imene tinasiyidwa tokha, tinakhala mosangalala komanso osasamala. Germany inandipatsa ufulu wamkati wamkati, kusawopa kukhala wosiyana.
Kodi munalota chiyani?
Sindinatenge makasitomala ndi zithunzi za ochita maseŵera ndipo ndithudi sindinakonzekere kukhala katswiri wa zisudzo. Ngakhale kuti masewerawo ankakonda kudzikonda - komabe msungwana wa sukulu anali wotsutsa Anatoly Efros ndi Yuri Lyubimov, mwinamwake anachezera mawonedwe onse kumaseŵera ku Malaya Bronnaya ndi Taganka. Ndinapita, ndikupeza tikiti yowonjezera, nditakhala pa gallery ... Ndinkakonda kuwona momwe ntchitoyi inasinthira malingana ndi zomwe zinapangidwa. Koma panali mazana ambiri owonetserako masewera m'masiku amenewo, zolaula zomwezo zinali mu dongosolo la zinthu ndipo sanalosere kuti ndikanati ndiyanjanitse moyo wanga ndi ntchitoyi.
Mkazi wa sukulu oyambirira wazaka makumi asanu ndi awiri, Vera Glagoleva, anali pa studio ya film ya Mosfilm ndipo mwangozi anatenga gawo lalikulu mu filimu ya Rodion Nakhapetov "Kukumapeto kwa Dziko ...". Ichi chinali chiyambi cha ntchito yake yamagetsi mu filimu.
Kodi mwatha bwanji pa Mosfilm?
Mayi anga panthawiyo ankagwira ntchito monga wotsogolera wamkulu ku Palace of Pioneers. Ndipo wotsogolera wochokera ku Odessa anadza kwa iwo kufunafuna ojambula pa chithunzi cha ana. Ine sindinali woyenera m'badwo, koma amayi anga anandipempha ine kuti ndiwathandize, kusankha ana kuti azisankha. Ndinakopeka kwambiri moti ndinaganiza zopitiliza kuchita izi - kusankha ojambula. Ndinkapita ku Mosfilm pamisonkhano yosatsekedwa. Bwenzi langa ankagwira ntchito kumeneko - anali wamkulu kuposa ine, ndipo ndinapita kwa iye kuti ndikafunse, kuti ndipitirize bwanji, kuti ndichite ntchito yomwe ndinkakonda. Rodion anandiwona ine kumeneko. Ine ndi mnzanga tinayima pamzere pa buffet, pamene munthu wa Nahapetov adalowa. Anatiyandikira ndipo anati Rodion akufunafuna chitukuko mu filimu yake yatsopano. Ndinapempha ngati ndikufuna kuwerenga script. Ndinawerenga script, ndipo ndinkakonda, zomwe ndinazilemba. Kenaka ndinaganiza kuti zatheka - muyenera kungoyembekezera kujambula. Sindinkachita mantha kapena kusangalala, panalibe chitsimikizo chenicheni kuti ndine ndekha wonyengerera. Ndi mtima wamtendere, ndinapita kukachita masewera olimbitsa thupi, omwe panthaŵiyo anali kugwira ntchito mwakhama, ndipo ndinayamba kudikira kuyitana.
Pambuyo pake, wojambula zithunzi ndi wafilimu Vera Glagoleva adamva kuti mayesero ake adawoneka oopsa kwambiri kuti zithunzizo zinkaikidwa pambali ndi kuiwala za iwo. Mkhalidwewo unasintha nkhaniyi: wochita masewero ovomerezeka mwadzidzidzi anadwala, ndipo zithunzi za Glagoleva zinaonanso antchito a ogwira ntchito. Panthawiyo, Vera Glagoleva, yemwe anali wojambula zithunzi, anafika pachimake ndipo anali ndi mitima pamtima. Anapezanso wojambula nyimbo ndi wotsogolera filimu Veru Glagolev pansi pa Mireille Matje. Zonsezi zinali kulimbika mtima kwa zaka makumi asanu ndi awiri zoyambirira, ndipo pambali pake, iwo adazipanga izo mosiyana ndi wina aliyense.
Pogwiritsa ntchito njirayi, kodi munaganiza kuti munayandikana kwambiri ndi mafilimu?
Panali kumverera kuti ndinanyengedwa. Ndinaganiza kuti ndikuitanidwa kale, ndipo mu chipinda chovekedwa ndinapeza wina wochita masewero kuti ndikhale ndi udindo wanga. Sindinaperekedwe ngakhale kuti ndisinthe zovala, iwo anati izo zikanatero. Kuphatikiza apo, kamera inali nthawi zonse kwa mnzanga, ndipo ndinagwira ntchito kumbuyo kwa mutu wanga. Pa chifukwa china sindinadandaule nkomwe. Mayesero anamaliza, ndipo Rodion anachotsa onse omwe anali nawo. Ndinatsala ndekha ndi kamera. Rodion anandiuza kuti ndiwerenge lolemba. Panalibe nthawi yoti am'phunzitse, choncho anayamba kundipangitsa - anaponya cues, ndipo ndinayankha, ndinangoti kwa kamera. Mwinamwake, ngati ndikanakonzekera ndemanga pakhomo, zikanakhala zoipa kwambiri, koma pano zonse zinkachitika mwadzidzidzi, mwachibadwa, zokha ... Pomaliza, Rodion anati: "Chilichonse, ndapeza heroine!"
Ndi kosavuta kwa wojambula nyimbo ndi wotsogolera filimu Vera Glagoleva kuti apeze zomwe ambiri akumenyera kwa zaka zambiri. Glagoleva nayenso amakumbukira kuti anachitapo kanthu popanda chidwi ndi mantha. Pokhapokha ngati zinali zochititsa manyazi kuthamangira khosi la wojambula wamkulu Peter Glebov ndi kulira kwa "Daddy, Daddy ...". Nthawi yomweyo Nahapetov anayamba kumusamalira kwambiri. Zinali zabwino, komabe, koma nyenyezi ya mafilimu "Chikondi" ndi "Okonda", chizindikiro cha kugonana cha nthawi imeneyo, akazi ambirimbiri anamwalira, ndipo adachita chidwi.
Rodion anali wamkulu kuposa Vera kwa zaka 12, iye anakhala mtsogoleri wake woyamba ndi mphunzitsi. Glagoleva mwiniwake sakonda kunena momveka bwino za ubale wake ndi Nakhapetov, koma kuti unali chikondi chosangalatsa, ndizotheka kale kuweruza ndi zolinga zomwe anabadwira ndikuzizindikira ndi anthu awiriwa. Nahapetov adajambula Vera mosalekeza, m'mafilimu ake ambiri a zaka zimenezo, ndipo sanafune kugaŵana nawo aliyense. Komanso, nthawi zonse ankamufunsa wochita masewerawa ndipo ankafuna kuti achite bwino kuposa ena.
Kodi zinali zofunika kwa inu, kutamandidwa kapena kuzunzidwa?
Sindinakumbidwe kwambiri. Komabe, ndikutamanda mopanda pake. Koma nthawi zonse ndimapirira zolephera za moyo. Kuti ine ndigwire ntchito, ine ndikupitirizabe kutamandidwa bwinoko. Kuchokera kutsutsidwa, manja anga amatsika, ndikutamanda, m'malo mwake, amapereka mphamvu zatsopano. Ndimadzichitanso ndikugwirizana ndi anzako - pantchito ya munthu aliyense pali chinachake chimene chingatamandidwe. Zotsalayo zingasiyidwe kumbuyo kwa mabakache kapena kunena zabwino kwambiri.
Zolemba za chilengedwe ndi zongowonjezera zakunja, kumbuyo komwe kunali chilengedwe champhamvu. Vera anakantha ndipo mkulu wotchuka Anatoly Efros. Iye anali kukonzekera kuwombera chithunzi "Pa Lachinayi ndipo sichidzakhalanso" ndipo adavomereza wojambula zithunzi ndi wojambula filimu Veru Glagolev kuti achite nawo tsiku lomaliza la yesero. Ndipo adamukakamiza Nakhapetov kuti amusiye apite ku kuwombera. Rodion sanamane, adazindikiranso kuti kugwira ntchito ndi Efros kunali chofunika kwambiri kwa mnyamata wamng'ono. Koma payikidwa kwa Glagoleva anadza kwa aliyense kuti adziwe: mtsikanayo ali wotanganidwa.
Chikhulupiriro ndi chisangalalo chinalowa mu kuwombera. Mpaka tsopano, ali wokondwa ndi ntchitoyi. "Choncho, monga Anatoly Vasilyevich amakonda okonda, palibe amene amawakonda," akukumbukira. Kumapeto kwa ntchitoyo, Efros anaitana Glagolev kumalo ake owonetsera. Nthawi yomweyo wojambulayo sanagwiritse ntchito, ndipo kenako Efros sanabwererenso pempholi, ndipo adawopa kukumbukira. Ndipo mwadzidzidzi, pamisonkhano ina ku Mosfilm, Efros mwadzidzidzi anati: "Chikhulupiriro, bwanji iwe usandiyankhe? Sankhani, ndikudikira. " Ndipo Glagolev, yemwe anali akudikira izi kwa nthawi yayitali, mwadzidzidzi anakana.
Kodi mumadandaula kuti simunapite ku zisudzo ku Anatoly Efros?
Sindikuganiza kuti zingasinthe moyo wanga wonse, monga momwe anthu ambiri amaganizira. Ndimangodandaula kuti sindinaphunzire kwa iye zonse zimene ndingaphunzire. Ndimakumbukirabe, motsogoleredwa ndi Rodion, ndinayesa kukana ndi kukankhira pambali pempho lake, zomwe sindingathe kuchita. Ndipo adati: "Ndili ndi ine - zigwira ntchito!"
Iwo amati chifukwa cha kukana kwanu kunali Nahapetov. Iye sanafune kuti inu muyambe kutsogozedwa ndi umunthu wamphamvu ngati Efros?
Osati ndendende. Chowonadi ndi chakuti nthawi zina Rodion anandichitira ine ngati mwana. Pano ndipo pa nkhaniyi, iye, podziwa za zochitika zamakono, ankaopa kunditengera ine kudziko kumene angakhumudwitse, akukhumudwitsa. Iye sanafune kuti ndipweteke kalikonse. M'lingaliro langa, iye anangonditeteza ine.
Kodi moyo wa Rodion Nakhapetov unali wosiyana kwambiri ndi chinsalu?
Chifukwa cha ntchito yake ya mafilimu, aliyense adalenga chithunzi cha munthu wotseguka, wokondwa, koma kwenikweni Rodion anali munthu wakumtunda, wosasunthika yemwe sanalolere makampani akulira. Mwaichi, ife tinali odzaza ndi kutsutsana. Ngakhale kuti aliyense ankationa kuti ndife aŵiri abwino - monga Alexander Abdulov ndi Irina Alferov, monga Sergei Solovyov ndi Tatyana Drubich. Koma, mosakayikira - anali bambo wabwino kwambiri, bambo yekha nambala imodzi. Anayenda ndi atsikana, ndipo ankasewera gitala, nagona pabedi ... Ngakhale adakula kwambiri - ndi Anya, ndi amayi anga a Masha. Iye ndi wongopeka chabe. Powombera mvula ku Kerch, Masha anali ndi miyezi inayi yokha.
Ndipo mukukumbukira bwanji mnzako ndi Cyril?
Panthawi imeneyo ndinali ndi script ya filimuyi, yomwe Rodion anali kufunafuna ndalama. Ife tatha kale, koma ine ndinamuthandiza mu chikhumbo ichi. Ndinafunsa Cyril ngati angakhale ndi chidwi ndi nkhaniyi. Script sankamukonda. Koma banja lathu liri pafupi zaka makumi awiri.
Zimadziwika kuti mwakwatirana. Kodi chinali sitepe yozindikira kapena kupereka msonkho?
Cyril ndi wokhulupirira, ndipo anali kuyambitsa kwake. Chilichonse chinali chete, m'kachisi tinali tokha, ndipo tili ndi ife - ana athu okha, Anya ndi Masha. Cyril - chosiyana kwambiri ndi Rodion: otseguka, okondwa, okondana. Ngakhale awiri a Aquarians, ngakhale anabadwa tsiku lomwelo-January 21, koma zaka zosiyana. Iye anali paulendo mu moyo wanga wamisala, ndipo mochulukira anayamba kuchitapo kanthu. Koma, ndithudi, chinthu chofunikira kwambiri ndi chakuti adayamba kukondana ndi atsikana anga ndipo, makamaka, adawaukitsa ndi Nastya wathu. Sanadandaule chilichonse pa iwo - ngakhale ndalama, kapena kusamala ...
Kodi mungadzitcha nokha kuti ndinu mkazi, mwayi ndi wachimwemwe mu chikondi?
Ndili ndi zaka, ndinatsimikiza kuti muyenera kudzikonda nokha pang'ono kuposa momwe mumakonda. Simungalekerere chikondi popanda tsatanetsatane, sungani mmenemo. Zowawa kwambiri zingakhale zokhumudwitsa.