Nkhani Yokhumudwitsa ndi Vakhtang Kikabidze

Yesetsani kuyesa: funsani mabwenzi kutchula dzina lachi Georgian wotchuka. Timasunga mgwirizano - muzigawo 95 peresenti idzakhala Kikabidze. Kuyambira nthawi ya "Orera", mafilimu "Musadandaule!" Ndipo "Mimino", iye amatipatsa Georgia chifukwa cha ife. Lero muwerengapo zachinyengo za Vakhtang Kikabidze.

Nthawi zambiri mumakumana ndi munthu amene amalumikizana kukoma mtima ndi nzeru ndi malingaliro atsopano komanso - nthawi zina - pafupifupi naivety ngati mwana. Mwinamwake, chifukwa cha makhalidwe awa omwe anapeza gawo lake loyambirira mu Danelia - dokotala wa Benjamin mu filimuyo "Musadandaule!". Komabe, malinga ndi nthano, Bubu anasankhidwa osati ndi Danelia, koma ndi amayi ake - amayi ndi alongo. Iye nthawi zonse ankakonda akazi - ndipo ali mnyamata, pamene anali mnyamata wam'nyumba, anali kubwereza kwamuyaya (anamaliza sukulu ali ndi zaka 20), ndi achinyamata a hooligan, pamene ankamwa vodka zambiri, kulavulira zokongola ndi kugwidwa ndi ndodo mu "sembles "ndi" orera " ". Ndipo pokhala wamkulu, pamene kachasu kanakumbidwa ndi siliva wodabwitsa, ndipo mu repertoire panafika kugunda "zaka Zanga - chuma changa." Buba Kikabidze ndi mwachilengedwe amapatsidwa mphatso yamatsenga kuti asinthe moyo wa iwo omwe ali naye pa holide, chifukwa ichi akusowa kusekerera ndi kulankhula.

Vakhtang, mumakhala nyumba ziwiri - apa, ndiye ku America?

Ayi, si choncho. Kodi ndikuwoneka ngati Agutin kapena Leontiev? Ayi, iwo si ofanana ...


Vakhtang , kodi tsiku lanu likuyamba liti? Ndine mbalame yoyamba, ndimadzuka pamene ndikufunika. Ndine nsodzi, ine ndakhala ndikuzolowereka.

Kodi muli ndi miyambo yamtundu uliwonse - kupatula, monga ndikuonera, ndudu yoyamba, yotsatira mwamsanga ndi yachiwiri ndi yachitatu?

Panali mwambo umene sindimakonda - porridge phalusa, tsopano madotolo adapeza kuti ndine oatmeal, amatha, sangadye konse. Ndipo ndine wokondwa kwambiri! Mukadzuka m'mawa, mumamva kuti lero ndi tsiku - kapena simunapemphe, ndipo ndibwino kuti musachoke panyumbamo, komabe mungatsatire zovutazo?

Pakatikati mwa Vakhtang Kikabidze, amanenanso kuti mwana wake amakhala moyo wosiyana ndi makolo ake. Ndili ndi zaka, pali masiku ambiri omwe anthu sakufuna kupita kulikonse. Koma chifukwa cha maulendo sindimapita ku Tbilisi, koma ndili ndi abwenzi ambiri, ndikufunika kuona aliyense. Tsopano tilankhula, ndikupita kukachezera-pali msuzi wozizira. Mnzanga wathu amphika m'mawa. Anyamata adzasonkhana ...

N'zachidziwikire kuti mumakonda alendo a ku Georgians amalandira alendo ndikuyamikira phwando. Vakhtang, ndipo mukuganiza bwanji, kodi mwambo wochereza alendo wa ku Georgia unapita kuti? Kwa ife, palibe chachilendo pa izi. Kuyambira ndili mwana ndikuwona alendo mnyumbamo, anthu osangalatsa anabwera kwa agogo anga: olemba, ojambula, andale. Ife, ana, tinaloledwa kukhalapo, ngakhale kuti sitinakhale pansi patebulo. Akuluakulu ankadziyerekezera kuti adabwera kudzakhala ndi kumwa vinyo, koma kwenikweni adakambirana za nkhani zakuya, akukangana pazochitika zandale, zojambula, ndizolemba zamakedzana. Ndinadziŵa kuyambira ali mwana kuti alendo anali oyera, kuti oyandikana nawo anali oyera, kuti popanda mlendo, opanda mnzako, opanda bwenzi, sangathe kukhala ndi moyo. Pali, ndithudi, anthu omwe alibe mbali ... Ndakhala ndikuyendera mayiko ambiri, ndipo nthawi zina ndadabwa: kodi anthu amadzikhalira okha?


Ku Georgia , komanso mnyumba mwathu, nthawizonse akhala akukhulupirira kuti munthu ayenera kukhala moyo chifukwa cha ena. Koma n'chifukwa chiyani chikhalidwe choterechi chinayambira? Pambuyo pake, chikhalidwe chilichonse chimafotokoza - mbiri, chikhalidwe ...

Mwinamwake, mfundo yonse ndi yakuti ndife dziko laling'ono. Georgia mwanjira imeneyo anapulumuka, kuti aliyense amadziwa ndi kuthandizana wina ndi mzake. Ndikukuuzani nkhani imodzi, ndipo mumvetsetsa zonse. Mnzanga woyamba anali Omar Mkheidze, wovina wotchuka, yemwe tsopano ndi People's Artist of Georgia. Panali mabwenzi ambiri, ndalama zochepa, sanakweretse ukwati mu lesitilanti, ndipo anali ndi chipinda chokhala ndi zipinda ziwiri. Koma pafupi ndi iwo amakhala mu chipinda china cha chipinda cha oyandikana nawo. Kotero iwo anathyola khoma, anasandutsa chipinda cha chipinda chimodzi, momwe iwo ankakondera ukwati. Ndiyeno miyezi yowerengeka ndikukhala-opanda khoma, chifukwa panalibe ndalama zoti zimangidwe. Ndipo palibe amene adawona izi zilizonse zachilendo - chinthu chachilendo. Chifukwa cha phokoso loipa la Vakhtang Kikabidze, owerenga adzaphunzira zambiri.

Imodzi mwa mafilimu mu filimu yanga yoyamba "Khalani ndi Moyo Wathanzi, Wokondedwa!" Pa mutu womwewo. A Armenian ndi a Georgiya - izi ndi zolinga zathu zosatha, timaseka pamitu yambiri: mpira, phwando ... Kotero msilikali wanga, wojambula, amzanga ochokera ku Armenia anabwera kuchokera ku Armenia. Iwo amayenda mozungulira nyumba - ndipo amakhala mu nyumba yakale ya matabwa a Tiflis - akulingalira zithunzi za banja lakale. Pa imodzi mwa zithunzi, sitimayo yomwe ikuyandama mumtsinje wa Kura, anthu a ku Georgiya akuchita phwando. Poyamba, mwambo umenewu unali - kukonzekera phwando pamtunda, kumwera ndi kuyamikira malo ozungulira. Koma tsopano, mungatenge kuti? Wokondedwa wanga, Givi adamuitana, akuuza alendo kuti: "Maŵa chigwacho chidzakhala." Ndipo, m'mawa, pamtsinje wa Kura, wokhala ndi chovala chamtengo wapatali, zimakhala zokazinga ... Madzulo, atakhala ndi alendo okhutira, Givi ndi bwenzi lake amachoka kunyumba kuchoka pa siteshoniyo, mnzako akulowa m'nyumba, akudutsa poyamba, ndipo timamva kulira kuti: "Givi! Ndipo msilikali wanga akuyankha kuti: "Chifukwa chiyani sunandifunse zomwe ndinapanga kuchoka?" Kenaka adayang'ana phando palimodzi nati: "Ndi mzinda wokongola bwanji umene tili nawo ..." Munaganizira nkhaniyi nokha kapena mumamva kwinakwake? Mwiniwake. Kawirikawiri ndimakonda nkhani zamatsenga, ndimakonda masewera. Ndinkafuna kukhala wochenjera ngati mwana. Mwamuna nthawi zonse, moyo wake wonse amayembekeza holide. Art ayenera kunyamula tchuthi, kuti munthu amene ali mu moyo sayenera kuyembekezera imfa iyi. Zikuwoneka kuti mukamayimba "Zaka zanga ndizolemera kwanga", ndiye kuti mumangopeka pang'ono. Vakhtang, makamaka muli ndi zaka eyiti, molondola?


Inde, ndikuganiza, zisanu ndi zitatu kapena zisanu ndi zinayi ... Munthu sayenera kupha mwana mwa iyemwini. Akangoyamba kukhala wamkulu, ndi khansa.

Kodi mukupitiriza kulemba malemba? Nthawi zina, ngati palibe bizinesi ina. Tsopano ndasonkhanitsa zidutswa zisanu ndi ziwiri. Ku Moscow, iwo ankafunitsitsa kujambula filimu, chithunzi chake, chinali chokonzeka, koma sichinatulutsidwe chifukwa cholipidwa pazandale. Ananditumizira pa diski - ndizo zonse. Anthu anasowa ndalama, ndipo pambuyo pake sindinkafuna kuwaika pamtendere, choncho ndinatenga malemba anga kwa iwo ndipo tsopano ndikuyang'ana othandizira atsopano. Vuto ndiloti nkhani ngati zomwe ndakuuzani, simudzatenga dziko lililonse. Mwinamwake, ku Italy chiwembu chomwecho chikanakhala "chosangalatsa". Ndi Fellini yoyera.

Inde, ku Italy, ku Azerbaijan ... Mu Russia - ayi. Ku Ukraine, kuweruza ndi malemba ena, chinthu chonga ichi chikhoza kuchitika - muli ndi malingaliro, ndipo chilichonse chikhoza kuchitika pakati pa kumovs. Ndikudziwa kuti inu munayamba kulemba mafilimu kuchipatala, pokhala pafupi ndi moyo ndi imfa. Ndipo wolosera uja ananeneratu izi ...

Inde. Sindinaganizire mosamalitsa maulosi a panthawiyo, ndipo ndinapita kwa wambwebwe - ndikuyenda ndi Nani Bregvadze potsatira pempho lake. Nani anatulukira kuchokera kwa wolosera onse woyera: mkazi uyu anafotokozera zonse za kale, ngakhale kuti sakanakhoza kudziwa zambiri, iye anali wochokera kudziko lina, iye amakhala kumudzi wa mapiri. Ndiyeno wambwebwe anandiuza kuti: "Pita, ndikubwezera iwe. Kapena mukuwopa? "Ananeneratu za matenda anga. Ndinamvetsera pakati, chifukwa sindinakhalepo ndi mawu m'moyo wanga. Koma zonsezo zinakwaniritsidwa, monga adanena.

Ndinakumbukira za chipatala ichi ndikuganiza kuti ndi ntchito yanji? Patapita masiku angapo iye anayamba kulemba. Sindinathe kugwira penipeni pa zala zanga, choncho ndinalemba nkhani zanga pa tepi ya matepi. Atachoka kuchipatala, adawalembera pamapepala, ndipo tidalemba limodzi ndi Tamaz Gomelauri omwe adawombera filimu yomwe inapambana mphoto zambiri, kuphatikizapo Grand Prix wa chikondwerero ku Gabrovo. Vakhtang, mumamva bwanji za maulosi tsopano? Kodi chiyanjano chanu ndi chiyani? Kuchokera nthawi imeneyo, ndakhala ndikuwonanso mobwerezabwereza maulosi omwe akwaniritsidwa mu maere. Mwinamwake, chirichonse chiridi cholembedwa mu bukhu lina la zolinga. Mwachitsanzo, bwenzi langa, woimbira wotchuka wa ku Armenia, analibe ana kwa nthawi yaitali. Ndipo iye ndi mkazi wake anali atataya mtima. Momwemo, pamene ndinali paulendo ku Baku, mnzanga anandipempha kuti ndipite naye kumapiri kuti akawonekere-akuti, mkaziyo amakoka, chonde, pangani kampaniyo. Tidafika m'mudzimo, tinakumana ndi mtsikana - wobvala, wopanda zovala, ndi maso oponya. Sindinayankhule Chirasha nkomwe, ndipo ndikuganiza, filimuyo sinayang'ane konse.

Chipindacho chimadzazidwa ndi zikopa zamagazini ngati "Ogonyok". Woyenda bwino anayang'anitsitsa pa imodzi mwa zithunzi ndipo, ndikuganiza, alowa mu galimoto, chirichonse chikugwedezeka. Kenaka adatembenukira kwa ife nati kwa mkazi wa woimbayo: "Pezani m'nyumba mwanu malaya achikuda a bulauni, mutsegule kolala - pali chinachake pamenepo, winawake watumizira zofunkha, ndipo muyenera kuziponya." Ine ndekha ndinawona momwe iwo anapezera chikopa chakale cha nkhosa kwinakwake mu chipinda, anang'amba kolala ndipo anatulutsa mtolo wa tsitsi. Ndipo chaka chotsatira iwo anali ndi mwana. Ndi zosangalatsa bwanji m'banja!

Koma tsopano ku Canada, ndinayang'ana "Nkhondo ya maganizo". Pali okhulupirira ambiri kumeneko, koma palinso anthu aluso kwambiri. Apeza omwe akusowa, ophedwa, adawona amene akujambula pa chithunzicho mu envelopu yotsekedwa ... Zosangalatsa bwanji!

Mwana wanga amakhala kumeneko, amachita bizinesi yake. Ndinakhala naye patapita ulendo wa ku United States - Ndinayenda ndi ma concert mumzinda wa 19 ndikuganiza kuti ndipume ndikusodza. Kuwonjezera pamenepo, anawo adakonza zokondweretsa ife ndi azimayi awo. Pa nthawiyi, phwando la nyimbo linkachitikira ku Montreal, tinali kumsonkhano wa Stevie Wonder, Tony Bennett, Joe Cocker ... Anawo anachita zonse kutipanga ife, anthu akale, osangalatsa. Vakhtang Konstantinovich, mwakhala m'banja kwa zaka zoposa 40. Chikhalidwe pakati pa anthu a ku Georgiya chilimbikitso, kupatula mu zojambula zachilengedwe pali zokongola zambiri ... Kodi chinsinsi cha ukwati wabwino n'chiyani? Ife tikungokondana wina ndi mzake. Mukuyenera bwanji? Kodi chikondi chimabwera ndi ntchito?

Ntchito ndi zofunika kwambiri. Iwo ayenera kulemekezedwa. Mkazi ayenera kumverera ngati mkazi, mwamuna - mwamuna. Koma ngati palibe chikondi, musazunzane wina ndi mnzake. Ngati ndinu mwamuna, muyenera kupita kuti musamphwanyidwe ndi mkazi. Ife sitikubwerera ku dziko kachiwiri. Koma, monga mwanu mumanenera nthawi zambiri, mwamuna ayenera kupita nthawi zina kumanzere - chifukwa cha kudzoza ... Ndipo ichi ndi vuto lake! Muloleni iye ayende, koma kuti pasakhale wina amene adzavutike.

Vakhtang, ndiwe atate wanji? Zikuwoneka kuti anthu a ku Georgia ndi abambo omwe amakonda abambo, omwe sangathe kuthandiza ana okha.


Ana anga anakulira akudzimva kuti anachitidwa ngati akuluakulu. Sindinayambe ndamvapo mawu awa m'nyumba mwanga: "Adadi, gula, chabwino, kugula!" N'zosangalatsa pamene abambo amanyadira kuti mwana wake wamwamuna wa zaka 17 amayendetsa galimoto yotsika mtengo kwambiri. Pomwe mukufunsana mafunso mwanjira ina munanena kuti simukukonda nyumba zazikulu, kuti mutasamukira kunyumba muno kuchokera ku nyumba yanu yakale simungagone, chifukwa simunamve bwino. Komanso awonjezera, omwe angakhale pa mpando - kuposa kale, kotero mumakhala omasuka kwambiri. Kodi simukusowa malo enieni?

Malo anga ndi kumene abwenzi amakhala. Pamene tinali aang'ono ndipo tinagwirizana ndi gulu la "Orera", tonsefe tinali ndi ma atlas a mthumba, ndipo tinadutsa mizinda yomwe sitinakhale nawo anzathu. Ndipo sanapite kumeneko. Posachedwapa anapeza kuti atlas - mizinda yambiri yadutsa. Pa njira, ndikupita ku US, ndinakhala masiku awiri ku Kiev, kumene ndili ndi anzanga ambiri. Ndinadziwiratu amene adzakumane nane, pa malo odyera omwe tidzakhala nawo, komwe ndimasiya ... Izi ndizofunika kwambiri. Inu mukudziwa, mayiko apangidwa zinthu. Ngati ndi zoona kuti Adamu ndi Hava anali anthu oyambirira, ndiye kuti tonse ndife achibale ndipo tiyenera kukhala m'chikondi komanso ubwenzi. Chochitika chotani chinasintha moyo wanu?

Moyo wanga unasintha mu April 1989, pambuyo pakubalalika kwa chiwonetsero ku Tbilisi. Wophunzirayo atayamba kupha njala, ndinapita ku Maikop ndi Orchestra ya ku Georgia yosiyana siyana, yomwe inkayang'aniridwa, koma tsiku ndi tsiku ndinayitanira kunyumba kuti ndikadziwe nkhaniyo. Ndipo pa April 9 sindinathe kupyola tsiku lonse, mzere unali wotanganidwa. Ndiyeno, madzulo, ndinangomaliza kuimba ndi kumva kuti mkazi wanga akulira. Anandiuza kuti asilikaliwo abwera ndikupha anthu ndi mafosholo. Ndinazindikira kuti ndiyenera kubwerera mwamsanga. Ndipo motani? Ndege za ku Georgia zaponyedwa, sitima sizipita ... Ndipo ife tonse titatha anthu 85 - oimba, oimba, ballet ... Tinapeza movutikira a ku Chechens omwe adagwirizana kuti atitengere mabasi awiri. Koma ku Tbilisi, pamene ndinawona tangi yoyamba ndi maso anga, potsiriza ndinakhulupirira zomwe zikuchitika. Sindikukumbukira momwe madzulo ano adadutsa. Mwanayo akuti: "Adadi, ndikukumbukira: munapita kuchimbudzi, mutakhala pa chivindikiro cha chimbudzi ndikulira." Kufuula ndi zopanda pake.


Ndipo anasintha moyo wanu?

Inde. Matenda anga asintha. Ndine wovuta, ndimakonda kusewera wopusa ... Koma pambuyo pa tsiku limenelo chinachake chinandigwera. Ndinazindikira kuti pali mphamvu yomwe ingasokoneze moyo wanga ndi moyo wa ana anga.

Mu moyo wa munthu aliyense pali mphamvu yotero - imfa. Ndipo, mwinamwake, sikofunikira kwambiri, yemwe nkhope yake imabwera ... Inde, mwinamwake.

Vakhtang Konstantinovich, ndiuzeni, kodi zimakuchitikirani kupatula inu kuchokera ku zolakwa?

Ngakhale munthu wodziwa zambiri angathe kutenga vuto limene sangapeze njira yakeyo. Gome la cholinga ichi linakhazikitsidwa kotero kuti anthu adzikhala kumbuyo kwake, kukambirana za zolakwa ndi kuthetsa mafunso. Tidakhala ndi mwambo wotere kumapiri - ngati pali vuto lamakangano, funsani malangizo kwa akulu. Akulu adakhala mu bwalo, adagawana zochitika ndipo adasankha momwe angakhalire. Ndikuganiza ngati apolisi akufunsana ndi anthu, ndibwino kuti aliyense akhale ndi moyo. Tiyeni tinene.

Inde, anthu sapereka chirichonse, chifukwa palibe amene amamufunsa. Pamene purezidenti waku Russia adatumiza uthenga wa telegalamu kuti ndinapatsidwa Dongosolo, zinali zabwino. Koma patatha masiku angapo, matanki a ku Russia analowa ku Georgia. Chabwino, ndingalandire bwanji dongosolo? Ndikanadulala mdzukulu wanga m'maso mwanga.


Ndi mphamvu yanji kwa inu ? Kodi mungamuimbire ndani munthu wamphamvu?

Hadji Murad. Morgan kuchokera ku nkhani ya Hemingway "Khalani kapena simunatero." Ndimalemekeza anthu osauka omwe amasankha zofuna zawo. Munthu ayenera kudziwa chifukwa chake amakhala ndi moyo, ndipo ngati n'koyenera, adzipereke yekha kuti apindule ndi achibale ake, a Motherland. Kwa ine, maiko ambiri a Malawi ndi ofunika kwambiri. Nthawi zonse amandiseka: amanena kuti zonse ndizozungulira, poyamba - a Motherland, ndiye-abwenzi, ndiye-banja. Inu, mwachiwonekere, muli ndi zochitika zabwino kwambiri ndi akazi. Kodi mukuganiza kuti amai amawunika kwambiri amuna?

Chinthu chofunikira kwambiri chomwe mwamuna ayenera kudziwa, ngakhale wazaka 14: mkazi ayenera kusamala kwambiri. Ziribe kanthu ngati mumupatsa maluwa kapena zida zonse. Chenjerani ndi chinthu chachikulu. Ndipo ngati ali wokondwa, mudzasangalala kwambiri.