Katya, pa unyamata wako unalota kusewera Bulgakovsky Margarita. Kodi mumagwirizana bwanji ndi chithunzichi?
Zikachitika kuti ngakhale ndisanawerenge bukuli, ndinakumana ndi munthu wosadziwika mumsewu yemwe anandiuza kuti: "Margarita ndiwe!" Zinamveka motsimikiza kuti ndimamukhulupirira, pomwepo ndinayamba kuwerenga bukulo ndipo ndinaganiza kuti, khalidwe lalikulu ndi lofanana kwambiri. Nditawerenga bukuli nthawi yoyamba, ndinasowa nkhani zonse za m'Baibulo. Ndinagwidwa kwambiri ndi chikondi cha ubale pakati pa Master ndi Margarita, kuti ndinawona zithunzi zawo zokha. Pamene ndinali kuphunzira ku Theatre Institute ku Yaroslavl, ndinaphunzira kuti Mark Zakharov akuyang'ana wojambula yemwe adzatha kupanga fano la Bulgakov's Margarita. Ngakhale kuyambira chaka chachitatu cha yunivesite yamapirili m'chaka chachitatu cha GITIS sichinatheke kutumiza, koma ndinachichita. Ndinasankha mwanzeru ndipo ndinayambiranso kumasulira maloto anga. Kenaka adaseŵera Margarita zaka khumi motsatira, koma ali pa sitepe ya Moscow Drama Theatre. K. Stanislavsky.
Kodi simukuwopa chiyambi cha udindo wa Bulgakov wa Margarita?
Ayi ndithu. Pamene mumakonda fano, simukuganiza za zinthu zachiwiri. Kuonjezera apo, sindimakhulupirira zizindikiro zonyansa komanso zoipa zomwe zimagwiritsidwa ntchito ndi dzina la Bulgakov ndi anthu ake. Mwa njira, Margarita alibe mphamvu yochitira masewero onse, ngakhale omwe ali ndi luso kwambiri: tikusowa uthenga wamphamvu. Inde, ndi kukwatirana zaka khumi ndi zisanu ndi zitatu - komanso, mukudziwa, uthenga wina ukufunikira. Kodi chinali chidziwitso chodzidzimutsa? Ndinali mwana, koma ndinali wofunitsitsa kwambiri moyo wodzikonda wodzikonda. Ndinkafuna kuthawa kwa amayi okhwima ndi ineyo kuti ndikhale ambuye wa nyumbayo. Ndimalingalira mwambi wanzeru wanzeru kuti mwamuna ndiye mutu, ndipo mkazi ndi khosi. Koma luso lonyenga - kuti mutembenuzire mutu wa munthu momwe mukufunira. Sindinapite patali. Koma ndine wojambula nyimbo, ndipo ndimachita zochitika pamoyo wanga monga umunthu wa umunthu. Ngakhale zokhumudwitsidwa mwa amuna ndi zothandiza, ngakhale mutalira mtolo - kale, pamene simungathe kupirira maganizo anu. Mwana wanu wamkazi kuchokera ku banja loyamba posachedwapa adzakhala khumi ndi zisanu ndi zitatu. Kodi mungamupatse bwanji chilakolako chofuna kulumphira ngati akulengeza? Ndikuganiza kuti sikofunika kuti tifulumire ndi banja. Ngati pali chikondi, chidzayima nthawi. Ndili mchiyanjano chaulere. N'chifukwa chiyani mumathamanga ku ofesi yolembera, kukonzekera zikondwerero zazikulu, kusonkhanitsa alendo, kuimba nyimbo zoledzeretsa ndikugwiritsa ntchito ndalama zochuluka? Ndizoseketsa! Ukwati ndiwongoledwa, wosafunikira m'zaka za m'ma 2000. Banja ndi mgwirizano waufulu wa mitima iwiri. Popanda sitampu pasipoti, anthu akhoza kukhala mochuluka kwambiri kusiyana ndi kusunga malamulo onse. Ngati mungandifunse zomwe zinali zopanda pake m'moyo mwanga, mukumva mukuyankha: "Ukwati wanga woyamba: ndi chovala choyera ndi chophimba ndi ambirimbiri achilendo."
Kodi zinatheka bwanji kuti mwamuna wanu woyamba akhale munthu wochokera kudziko lachigawenga?
M'bwalo - kutaya zaka 90. Mzinda wa Togliatti, umene tinkakhalamo, unali wofanana ndi American Chicago. Onse akuba, mu unyolo. Kenaka ambiri anali kugulitsa magalimoto obedwa ndi zida zopuma - ndipo anapulumuka. Mwamuna wanga anali wodziŵa bwino kusonkhanitsa magalimoto. Ngakhale kuti chigawenga sichinali, mosiyana ndi abwenzi ake. Komabe, kwa ine, mulole munthuyo akhale woweruza milandu m'malo mopanda aliyense.
Nchifukwa chiyani moyo sunapangire naye?
Ndinkafuna kulowa m'sukulu ya masewera ndikuyamba kukhala munthu, ndipo Alex anali kutsutsana nawo. Iye anali wamkulu kuposa ine zaka zisanu ndi ziwiri ndipo amakhulupirira kuti onse ochita masewerawa ndi amayi a khalidwe labwino ndipo samadziwa momwe angagwiritsire ntchito, koma iye amafuna kukhala ndi banja lolimba.
Tsopano kodi mukukumana naye?
Sitikulankhulana. Lesha anakwatira kachiwiri, anakhala mu Togliatti ndipo palibe chomwe chimamuthandiza mwana wake Lera. Mwana wanga wamkazi ankakonda kukumana naye, koma tsopano zimakhala zochepa. Kwa zaka ziwiri tsopano, sanamuyamikire tsiku lake lobadwa. Nthawi yoyamba akulira, koma tsopano akugwiritsa ntchito ... Ukwati woyamba ndi chikondi chako choyamba? Ayi, si choncho. Chikondi changa choyamba chinachitika m'kalasi yachisanu ndi chiwiri. Tonsefe tinaphunzira ku sukulu ya luso: Ndili ku dipatimenti ya nyimbo, ndipo bamboyo ali ku dipatimenti yosungirako zojambulajambula. Tinali ndi chikondi cha Plato. Nthawi zonse ndimamukumbukira monga kumverera kwanga kowala kwambiri. Ubale umenewu sunayambe kukhala wofanana, ngakhale kuti panali kuyesayesa mbali yake. Koma kulera kwanga kunandichititsa ine! Mayi kuyambira ali mwana wandipatsa ine mfundo: munthu woyambirira ayenera kukhala woyenera.
Chabwino, tsopano malingaliro anu pa maubwenzi ndi amuna asintha?
Pambuyo, banja langa linali lofunika kwambiri - choncho ndinakulira ndi makolo anga. Tsopano ndikuyang'ana moyo mosiyana pang'ono ndikuyamikira kwambiri ufulu wanga wamakono. Poyamba, nthawi zonse ndimakhala ndi "mwamuna wanga": Ndinangokhala ndi zofuna zake, ndimamvetsera nyimbo zomwe amakonda, kuwerenga mabuku ndi kuwonerera mafilimu omwe adawalangiza. Izi zikutanthauza kuti nthawi zonse wakhala kapolo. Sindikufuna kuti ndikhale ndi moyo. Koma ndikuyembekeza kudzakumana ndi munthu wamtundu wake, pafupi ndi ine mu mzimu.
Monga ndikudziwira, kodi mukutsutsana ndi maubwenzi apamanja, ngati mumayamikira ufulu muukwati?
Ndikutsimikiza kuti ubalewu umatha ndi nthawi yomwe sitampu imaponyedwa pasipoti. Pambuyo pake, anthu amayamba chifukwa cha mfundo yokhayo: "changa ndi changa," ndipo "kudzipatula" koteroko sikukhazikitsa chikondi, koma amaipha. Kuti mkazi ayamikire mwamuna, ayenera kuopa kum'taya. Izi zimagwira ntchito kwa amuna. Ayenera kumvetsetsa: ngati akukhumudwitsa, akukhumudwitsa mkazi, adzatsegula chitseko ndipo sadzabweranso. Kawirikawiri zinkachitika mmoyo wanga, koma nditadutsa pamsewu mwa njira ina, sindinayambirenso.
Mabanja anu onse anayi anali ovomerezeka?
Atatu okha. Koma ndimakwatiwa ndi Eduard Limonov, ngakhale kuti sitinakhale limodzi kwa nthawi yaitali. Pafunso limodzi mudanena kuti ngati munthu amakukondani, yesetsani nokha. Ndiye pamene munakumana ndi wolemba ndale komanso wolemba mbiri Eduard Limonov wochititsa manyazi? Kenaka, pa chiwonetsero chojambula, ndinayang'ana maso a Lemonov akudabwa kundiyang'ana. "Moni, ndine Katya Volkova. Ndinakukondani kwambiri? "Ndinamuponya, ndikudutsa. Kenaka TV za "KGB mu tuxedo" zinasonyezedwa pa TV, kumene ine ndimagwira ntchito yaikulu ya akazi. "Ndiwe yani?" Iye anafunsa. - "Kodi inu simukuwona KGB mu tuxedo?" Atangomva mawu akuti "KGB", Limonov adatsitsimuka ndipo anandichitira chidwi. Choncho nkhani yathu inayamba.
Pamene anakwatiwa ndi Limonov, sanachite manyazi ndi kusiyana kwakukulu kwa zaka zambiri?
Ndinali ndi zaka 31, anali ndi zaka 62, koma sindinaganizepo panthawiyo. Nthawi zonse ndimamvetsera kuitana kwa mtima ndipo sindikudziwa yemwe ali wamkulu kapena wamng'ono. Ndinayamba kukondana ndi Limonov, ndipo ndinali ndi mphamvu kwambiri, kotero sindinasinthe maganizo anga. Tinalemba ndakatulo pamodzi. Ndi iye yemwe anandilola ine kumvetsera nyimbo zanga. Panali malo okondana m'nyumba zabwino, zochokera pa "March of Dissent", popeza Limonov anali wandale wotsutsa. Izi zonse zinakondwera! Koma ndimakana kumvetsa zolinga zake zonse komanso maganizo ake ngati mkaziyo akukakamizika kugwira ntchito nthawi kuti azisamalira banja.
Kotero kodi ndi zoona kuti mgwirizano wanu unagwedezeka chifukwa cha njira ya moyo?
Pamene pali mavuto a tsiku ndi tsiku, makamaka omwe ali okhudzana ndi ana, mu chiyanjano pakati pa mwamuna ndi mkazi, kukangana kwakukulu kumayamba. Mwa njirayi, tinkakhala m'gawo langa - m'kachipinda kakang'ono, komwe ndimalembera ndi Limonov, chifukwa ankangobwereka nyumba. Iye anali wansanje ndipo ankandimphwanya pa ine mwaufulu. Ndipo ndinkafuna chikondi chokongola komanso banja labwino. Chifukwa chake, sindinathe kupirira ndikupita ku Goa ndi ana anga. Pambuyo pake, sitinaitane. Anali mapeto. Ndipo ndimayesetsa kukhala ndi chiyanjano ndi Limonov chifukwa cha ana - tili ndi mwana Bogdan ndi mwana wamkazi Sasha. Nchiani chomwe chinalepheretsa banja lachidwi ndi wolamulira ndi wofalitsa Sergei Chliyanets? Chirichonse chinayamba bwino kwambiri ... Ndikuthokoza: Anandithandiza pa nthawi yovuta - atatha kugawidwa ndi wolemba wina - mkulu wa Eduard Volkov, pamene ndinali pafupi ndi moyo ndi imfa. Tinakumana pa phwando la mafilimu ku Khanty-Mansiysk mu 2002, kumene ndinabwera kudzaimira filimu "About Love" yolembedwa ndi Sergei Solovyov. Achikulire nthawi yomweyo adayamba kukondana nane ndipo adadzipereka kuti akhale mkazi wake wovomerezeka. Tinakwatirana chaka chimodzi. Ndinaganiza kuti ndimutsatira, ngati khoma lamwala. Koma, tsoka! Zinaoneka kuti tili ndi malingaliro a polar pa moyo. Akatolika amanena kuti ndine mbuye yekha, ndipo mkazi wabwino wa ine sangagwire ntchito: iye nthawi zonse ankalongosola zonena zake, amafuna chinachake. Ndinakwiya kwambiri ndipo ndinasiya kuletsa mtima wanga. Pasanapite nthawi anasintha maganizo ake ndipo anamuuza kuti: "Tiyenera kukhala mosiyana." Ndiye, mu imodzi mwa ma telecasts, iye anandiuza kuti ife tinachokapo kwa kanthawi. Sergei, akuphunzira za izi, adakwiya ndipo nthawi yomweyo adafuna kuti athetse banja. Ine ndinanyamula zinthu, kumanena kuti ine sindinatenge malo ake okhala, ndipo ndinachoka mu nyumba kwamuyaya. Ndi uti mwa amuna anayi omwe mungatchule chikondi cholimba kwambiri? Wachiwiri wanga, mwamuna wa Eduard Volkov. Iye sanali mfulu, koma anali munthu uyu yemwe anakhala Pygmalion wanga mu moyo wake wapangidwe ndiumwini.
Ndipo munakumana naye bwanji?
Iye anabwera ku GITIS studio ndipo anandiwona ndikusewera. Tinalumikizana mwachindunji, ndipo anandiitanira kumalo ake ku Youth Theatre kuti apite tchuthi. Pamwamba pa chikondwerero cha masewero, ndinamuitana Edward panthawi yovina. Pomwepo ndiye kuti chilakolako cha chilakolako chinayambira pakati pathu. Mudasewera pa Boyakov mu Youth Theatre. Kodi kunali kovuta kugwira ntchito limodzi, kubisala kumbali zonse zomwe zimakhala pamodzi? Sitinakhale pansi pa denga lomwelo, koma ndinali ndi chidwi kwambiri ndi iye. Kufika kwanga m'bwalo la zisudzo kunapangitsa mphekesera zambiri. Mafutawo adatsanuliridwa kumoto ndi mkazi wake womulangizidwa, wolemba nkhani wamkulu wa masewero, yemwe nthawi zonse anali naye. Mwachidziwitso, zinthu zinali zovuta komanso zosavuta kumva: Wophunzira wophunzira wa GITIS ndi wokonda Mtsogoleri Wamkulu wa Theatre Theatre ndi wolemba Golden Award Award. Kodi makolo anu anachita chiyani atamva zimenezi? Mayi, ndithudi, anali kudandaula kwambiri za ine ndipo ankafuna kuti ine ndikhale ndi moyo waumwini ndipo ndinapeza munthu wodalirika. Amayi nthawi zonse amati: "Ziribe kanthu kuti ndi ndani. Chinthu chachikulu ndi chakuti iwe uyenera kukhala wosangalala! "Koma, kupatulapo kuti Edward anathyola mtima wanga, anandipatsa zambiri mu moyo uno ndipo anandithandiza kuti ndiyende: kuti ndikhale ku Moscow, kuti ndiyambe ndondomeko yoyamba yolenga. Ndinkakonda kwambiri, ndipo ichi ndi chinthu chofunikira kwambiri kwa mkazi.
Nchifukwa chiyani iwo anagawana?
Tinakhala pamodzi kwa zaka zinayi - iyi ndiyo nthawi yaitali kwambiri pamoyo wanga pamodzi ndi amuna. Nthawi ina, ndinadzilimbitsa mtima kuti tidzakwatirana. Koma chisokonezo chachikulu mchiyanjano chathu chinaperekedwa ndi zokondweretsa zina zooneka bwino amayi ena, mafilimu aang'ono, ndipo ndinali wansanje. Zoonadi, m'zaka zambiri ndakhala wanzeru ndipo tsopano ndikuyesera kuti ndisagwire anthu nsanje. Ngakhale popanda nsanje mkaziyo amaletsedwa ndi zonse zokwanira zachisangalalo ndi zosangalatsa. Ngati mumakonda kwambiri, simungathe kudzichitira nsanje, ndipo palibe amene angandichititse manyazi! Kodi Boyakov anachita chiyani atamva nsanje? Edward ankakhulupirira kuti zolankhula zanga zimalankhula mwa ine, osati nsanje. Ndinagonjetsa mozama mtima wanga, mpaka ndinazindikira kuti ndikudziwononga ndekha. Panthawi inayake, panali chidziwitso m'mutu mwanga, ndipo ndinadzifunsa ndekha funso ili: "Ndipo ine? Ndikanatha bwanji? "Ndinadzipereka ndekha ndikukonda popanda tsatanetsatane, ndipo tsiku lina Edward wanga wokondedwa anandiitana" kapolo wa chikondi, "ndipo ndinamva kuwawa ndikumva kuwawa. Ndani sanamvepo kumverera kokoma uku, sakudziwa kuti chikondi ndi chiyani. Munthu, ndithudi, amatembenuka kukhala kapolo ndipo ali wokonzeka china chirichonse kwa aliyense - nsembe iliyonse, zozizwitsa. Chofunika kwambiri, ngati anthu achikondi ali ogwirizana chifukwa chodziwika. Mphindi iliyonse ndi wokondedwa ndizosangalatsa, ndipo mumamuchitira nsanje osati mkazi, koma nthawi yomwe amatha popanda inu. Koma ndine wokondwa kuti ndinali ndi chikondi chotero, ngakhale kuti chinali "chiwonongeko chamagazi". Lero sindikukondana kwambiri. Katya, nchifukwa ninji mumakhala limodzi kwambiri ndi Eduard Boyakov? Ndi chiyani chomwe sichinali chokwanira kwa amuna ena? Anali kuthawa: amatha kubwera mwadzidzidzi kwa nthawi yosafunika, ndikudziwa momwe angapitire ulendo wopita ku dacha holide yeniyeni. Iye ndi wokoma mtima - amatha kusankha mosasamala nyimbo kuti achitepo kanthu, nthawi zonse anali kuzungulira ndi anthu opanga zinthu, zomwe zinapanga mlengalenga wopanda malire. Chinthu chachikulu - Edward anandilola kuti ndipite mfulu, ngakhale sindinkafuna. Sanafunse kuti ndikuti ndi ndani, chifukwa chiyani ndakhala kutali kwa nthawi yaitali - sindinafunike kuti ndipereke ndondomeko yokhudza kayendetsedwe kanga. Kodi mukuganiza kuti pambuyo pa maukwati anayi, amuna amamvetsetsa bwino? Mpaka tsopano sindingathe kumvetsetsa, ndi chiyani kwa anthu - amuna awa ?! Ndinangodziwa kuti mkangano pakati pa amuna ndi akazi ndi wachilengedwe ndipo siwongolekerera kusanthula maganizo ndi maganizo. Sitikumvetsetsana ndipo sitidzakhala pa mgwirizano, choncho mwamuna amayamba kukopeka ndi mkazi komanso mosiyana. Ndikufuna kulowa mkati mwa ubongo wa anthu ndi kumvetsetsa zomwe akuganiza.